--- You are a content creator, you work on a radio show and you have a podcast. You have an immense desire to communicate, don't you?
--- I think they have always been inside me. They often ask me: what would your life be like if you hadn't picked up the camera when you were 11 and hadn't made that first video? I always answer that, sooner or later, I would have ended up being that anyway. I have always had that thing inside, like talking a lot. I think it's the best and the worst of me. The best because it's what has given me this fantastic life, and the worst because when you talk so much... sometimes you screw up, of course.
--- What do you think people have liked so much about you?
--- What people like about me is the same thing they don't like about me: that I am very authentic and very natural. I always say what comes from within. I couldn't be one of those influencers who never take a stand. But at the same time, sometimes I think and say... It's difficult.
--- Precisely, one of the criticisms made of many influencers is that they show an unreal life.
--- I show my life as it is. It's a life that is, to a large extent, normal, but then, it's not normal. Nobody goes to work two hours to present a radio show, nobody my age earns like that for what I do. Nobody my age goes to Norway for 21 days. I show it being very aware that it is not normal and that I am super fortunate.
--- On your social media, you talk about sometimes doing oversharing. That is, sharing an excess of your personal data.
--- Yes. I have regretted it many times, many. For example, having shown so much of the last relationship I had. But, if later I find myself in a very sweet moment, I will think... How can I not show it? For example, something that at first was very hard for me to say was that I didn't have a father. Not having a father has marked me a lot. And I decided to tell it. For many, this will be oversharing, but I believe I helped people who felt the same way. Many girls, especially. I really like this about an influencer.
--- Do you receive many messages about other topics with which you may have helped your followers?
--- Many times. And it's what gives meaning to everything for me. What I said in Loft about Lola Lolita (related to sex) was very unfortunate, but in the podcast La Toneta, we talk a lot about sexuality. We talk a lot about consent. I always tell them that, for example, my first time really marked me. I remember the boy insisted a lot. And at that moment, I found it normal. At 17, I thought... He's angry, maybe it is my fault, maybe I should have finished. Now that I'm older, 22, I tell girls that this is not normal, that this is not a consensual relationship.
--- You also talk about self-esteem.
--- Yes. I have always had very low self-esteem. Until I was 20, or even now, at 22, I haven't had consolidated self-esteem. I also listen to many podcasts and they also help me. Knowing that they feel what I feel with other podcasts is fantastic.
--- What is your relationship with social media? How many hours do you dedicate to it a day?
--- Now I have a super healthy relationship. At first, I went to the psychologist because of social media. A bad comment would already ruin my day. I always thought: I hope I never get canceled on Twitter. It was my biggest fear. But then it happens and you realize it's not that serious. You are so sure of your intention... You made a mistake, yes, but you will apologize and that's it. Thanks to my psychologists ---I've had more than one and two and three--- I've learned a lot to relativize. Twitter, for example, I no longer have. I was obsessed with searching my name. Every day I would go in ten times to see if they had said anything. It is, literally, a drug.
--- Many women with visibility suffer, in one way or another, digital violence. Have you suffered it?
--- I experienced it when I did humor. A joke that a guy would perfectly make and everyone would applaud him, I have always been ridiculed and humiliated. I have lived this with terrifying rage and it is what has made me stop doing humor. It makes you lose the desire. Another thing I've realized is that a girl, on TikTok, can only be one thing. She can be the pretty girl who dances, the girl who does makeup, or the girl who does humor. But she can't be everything.
--- Have you suffered harassment on social media?
--- Continuously, only one guy did it to me many years ago, who told me he would come to pick me up at "my fucking house," in Mataró. I got so scared! With harassment, generally ---the one that is not continuous--- what I do is simple. When they insult me a little, just a little, I block. Why do I have to put up with hate on my networks? The blocking tool is the best ever invented. I must have 5,000 people blocked!
--- You argue that the job of a content creator is not difficult. Why?
--- You have to keep your feet on the ground. You have to be realistic. Is it really difficult to pick up your phone and record your outfit? If you think this is difficult, live more. Get out of the bubble. I've been lucky that I've never had any precarious job and you'll never hear me talk about that or complain about hardships. I would say the only difficult thing is to endure this pressure and know that you are always controlled. To know that everything you say will have repercussions. Otherwise, it's the easiest job in the whole world. And, furthermore, it's fantastic, it's super rewarding and too well paid. It's terrifying how well paid it is. Nurses and farmers demonstrating and us earning thousands of euros for a video. Obviously, I'm not in favor of the "influencers do nothing" discourse ---that's said a lot--, but I'm not in favor of the victimist discourse either.
--- You made a video showing all the insults you received about your physical appearance. Another difficult thing is the aesthetic pressure experienced on social media…
--- Yes, in December I uploaded a video and started seeing very derogatory comments like "are you starving?", "aren't you ashamed of the example you're setting?". It frustrated me a lot. Example of what? Of me showing my body? I've never talked about this, never in my life. I know I have a super normative body. I've always been super thin. It really annoys me that people say things about my body because I'm simply existing. I've felt that aesthetic pressure a lot, a lot, a lot. One day I deleted all the bikini photos from my profile because I didn't want people to see my body. You think: I'll wear baggy clothes from now on because I don't want them to see my body.
--- All this bodyshaming against women ---especially if they are above what is considered a normative weight--- negatively affects self-esteem.
--- Of course. I used to be very insecure about my breasts because they are super small. When I started making content in Catalan on TikTok, a woman commented to me: "aren't you ashamed to show those breasts you have, which don't exist?" And I thought: she's right, from now on I'm going to wear a bra. It's very sad.
--- When you entered Juno House, the women's club where we conduct these interviews with Granini--- some girls said "Have you seen? It's Berta Aroca!". How have you experienced this process of going from being totally unknown to being recognized on the street?
--- In Barcelona, they don't stop me at all, eh. At first, I talked a lot with the psychologist about seeing myself as very arrogant because I had a very hard time when they stopped me. Even now I don't understand why it happened to me. I think I was simply overwhelmed. Obviously, I like being stopped and I owe everything to my followers. And that's why I went to the psychologist and told her: I don't know how to manage it. Now, finally, I'm handling it well, although I'm still learning. I would like to be as friendly as Juliana Canet is with her followers.